“In one frequently cited study, attractive young researchers separately approached opposite-sex strangers on Florida State University’s campus and proposed casual sex. Three-quarters of the men were game, but not one woman said yes.”
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“The ingredients listed in the (nutrition) flyer suggest a lot of thought goes into a nugget, that and a lot of corn. Of the thirty-eight ingredients it takes to make a McNugget, I counted thirteen that can be derived from corn: the corn-fed chicken itself; modified cornstarch (to bind the…
Over the past year and a half ish, I have been playing around with all different types of veganism and vegetarianism, but over the duration of the time, I was 100% red meat free (save for the time I went to The Village and got a santa fe chicken salad to find out there was bacon in it, and…
NO. Red meat is never what’s best for you, for animals, for the environment, for ANYTHING important.
NO, NO, and NO.
I’m sorry if this is too “harsh,” but I’m tired of anyone thinking red meat is “good” for them, or meat in general for that matter. Animal protein is NOT healthy, in any form. Don’t apologize to the vegetarians and vegans who follow you, apologize to the ANIMAL you just ate.
Please stop spreading misinformation. Red meat can be healthy if the animal is actually fed the right diet (anything you buy in a store won’t be fed that). Cattle from a factory farm setting is unhealthy for all involved, especially the animals, but that is not the only way to obtain red meat.
Animal protein comes in many forms, not just red meat. And a lot of it is very healthy. There isn’t one indigenous culture on this planet who did not consume some form of animal product (fish are a big provider). These proteins and fats were necessary for survival because plants with the necessary proteins are not abundant in nature.
Wanna boycott meat because you don’t like the way animals are treated? That’s fine—but don’t spread lies about health and nutrition like this. The vegan diet would not be possible if it weren’t for the global industrial economy, which oppresses not only animals (domesticated & non-domesticated alike), but people too.
I’m probably going to get an anonymous person asking me a bunch of questions again because this is the same person I responded to last week, but whatever. I don’t like when people spread lies.
I’m not spreading lies. Red meat is unhealthy. Animal protein in general causes a host of diseases, including heart disease, which is rampant in the United States.
The longest-lived people in the world live in cultures that get LESS THAN 5% of their diet from animal protein. None of them eat red meat. A few include fish, one includes a fermented dairy beverage, but even those only eat animal protein INCREDIBLY SPARINGLY.
If you think I’m spreading lies, I would recommend Healthy to 100 by John Robbins, or The China Study by Dr. Campbell.
Grass-fed beef, while better than corn-fed beef, is healthier, yes. But that’s like saying ice cream is better for you than ice cream with fudge on top. Yes, it’s healthier. Either way, you shouldn’t be eating it.
Vegans who eat a ton of processed shit are going to be unhealthier than vegans who rely on unprocessed vegetables and fruit, and vegans can be malnourished, sure. But that doesn’t mean animal protein in general isn’t still AWFUL for your system. Animal protein in general makes your blood acidic. To neutralize that acidity, your body takes calcium from your bones. Guess what? That’s why Westernized countries have exponentially higher rates of arthritis than areas that rely on a vegan or primarily vegan diet. The healthiest cultures IN THE WORLD are vegan.
Don’t you DARE call me a liar, I do know what I’m talking about. I’m sorry to be a bitch about this, and I’m sure I could’ve said this in a nicer way, but I’m tired of taking shit for the TRUTH.
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So, in my response to my vanilla privilege post I mostly got very sweet supportive comments, there were a few responses like “How can a man who enjoys dominating and humiliating women be a feminist?” and I’d like to say something to those folks. You’re asking the wrong…
If you actually believed in animal rights, you’d be a vegan. No elitism here, eat what you please, but do not front like you got some sort of logical convictions and ignore that dairy is still rape. Different body parts don’t have different rights.
Everything about this comment is awful. This is hyperbolic, dramatic, and just plain wrong. Couple tips:
- Animals are not humans, therefore they do not have human rights. So while different body parts do not have different rights, animals and humans do have different rights.
- Milking a cow is not rape. Rape is rape. Full stop. (Source)
Pro Tip: Using rape to describe things which are clearly not the sexual violation of another human being without consent is an awful thing to do.
-“No elitism here” If you say so, but I can’t ignore the heaping helping of judge-y classism! Some people can not afford to be vegan, and remain healthy. It kind of makes my head numb that people can honestly believe someone who recognizes that the best way for their (omnivore!) body to remain in working order without spending an ass ton on specialty foods / supplements can’t possibly be for animal rights.
I am a firm believer in animal rights. I am all for convicting individuals who abuse and mistreat animals. I am all for a massive overhaul of the meat, dairy and general animal food product industries, to ensure the animals are treated properly before I eat them. I give money to animal shelters, and have donated plenty of my time to them, as well. I try to educate people about spaying / neutering their pets, and not declawing. And I do all this as someone with a degree in Zoology, as a former veterinary intern, and as a former zoo keeper.
I am not, however, a believer in demeaning people, using awful, triggering language, or completely ignoring biology, economics, and reality to make hyperbolic statements about why “being vegan makes one a better animal rights activist than someone else”. And honestly, I care more about the human beings out there who are being harmed and offended by statements like this. Because that’s what it is, harmful and offensive.
P.S. Bacon is awesome.
You invalidated your entire argument, as well as your credibility, by beginning an argument defending your belief in animal rights by claiming that humans and animals do not have different rights. That’s called speciesism, and you’re no authority on animal rights if you are willing to support it. So before I continue, do not call me a CLASSIST when you just assured that humans are the superior mammals (/animals/species).
Now. You saying “dairy isn’t rape, rape is rape” is probably of the same vein of argument as “cows would die if they weren’t milked.” You’re right. Dairy cows, bred specifically for the purpose of producing milk, are raised, fed, genetically altered, and inhibited in such a way that if they were not milked by their respective machines/”farmers”, they would die. I’m very sorry to say that for most, that kind of death would be a liberation.
Is calling milking cows rape wrong just because they’re cows? Do you even know how it works?
Dairy cows are artificially inseminated, BY FORCE. The chains, ropes, collars, and cages they are kept in negate any sort of resistance from them, and they are impregnated REPEATEDLY. Cows, like humans, produce milk to feed their young, yet the calves of a dairy cow are immediately removed form their mothers and the milk harvested, insemination repeated for the entire lifetime of the cow until it dies, never having moved from its fucking death chamber. I do not intend to bend any definitions or play with any words; rape is forced sexual intercourse against the will of the victim.
If you can transcend your speciesism for a second, you won’t be able to miss the correlation. But you probably can’t.
No way, an argument against veganism mentioning how not all people can afford the lifestyle? I’m shocked you didn’t throw in something about having canine teeth. Everybody can afford to be MORALLY UPRIGHT and therein A VEGAN. Veganism is not raw food bars and Boca burgers, it’s a health conscious, commitment conscious choice which, if anything, limits your spending because it enhances your know-how when it comes to purchasing and consuming food.
Congratulations. You used to work in a zoo. How was exploiting animals in captivity taken from their natural habitats? How stoked were those elephants? Giving money to animal shelters and buying bumper stickers from PETA does NOT make you an animal rights activist, it makes you a selectively moral dilweed who has no right, no place, and no authority to call themselves an “activist.”
You just ended a defense of your convictions in animal rights with “bacon is awesome.” I guess it takes someone who’s so proud of a zookeeping job to support an INDUSTRY which MURDERS, EXPLOITS, and TORTURES innocent BEINGS, not the faceless, non-exotic, non-domestic, not “cute” animals you could never see yourself eating, much less hurting. Of course not, because those animals are more important than the other ones.
“Because of the position of opportunity that ANYONE in this society has (none of us are hunter-gatherers, none of us only have access to animal products and depend solely or mostly on them for food), consuming these products is completely unnecessary, and thus morally indefensible, considering their impact. In short, because we can live without causing this suffering, we have a responsibility to do so. The only reason we allow this bane to exist in this world is that we, as the perpetrators of these injustices, disconnect ourselves from the reality of the situation.”
“We have enslaved the rest of the animal creation, and have treated our distant cousins in fur and feathers so badly that beyond doubt, if they were able to formulate a religion, they would depict the Devil in human form.”—William Ralph Inge, Outspoken Essays, 1922 (via vegantruth)